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Mahmud Nedim Bey

Annual salary study and register readings

This study view uses the annual salary reference records. The main biography brings together the wider career and its sources.

Life and register readings

Mahmud Nedim Bey was born in Istanbul in 1851/52 (AH 1268); the father's occupation was "Erzurum vilayeti kapı kethüdası". Work began in Istanbul in 1874/75, at about 22. The first annual entry, for 1874/75, places Mahmud Nedim in Istanbul, the birthplace, as Tahrirat-ı Hariciye Kalemi mülazımı. The annual lists then follow Mahmud Nedim to a post with no place named from 1875 to 1879. Alongside, the lists for 1877 to 1879 give a second post, in Istanbul as Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibi; geçici Tahrirat-ı Hariciye Kalemi hizmeti. Next came Sofia (Sofya) from 1879 to 1882. Alongside, the lists for 1881/82 give a second post, in Istanbul as Bâbıâli hukuk müşavirleri refakati. Mahmud Nedim then moved to Belgrade (Belgrad) from 1885 to 1890. Alongside, the lists for 1889 to 1891 give a second post, in Pazar as Atina sefiri. The lists have no entry for 1891 to 1895. Alongside, the lists for 1890 to 1897 give a second post, in a post with no place named as Roma sefiri.

Pay rose from 1,425 kuruş a month in 1875/76 to a peak of 20,500 in 1895/96, when 99 per cent of paid officials earned less. Over 13 years the salaries add up to 1,167,120 kuruş, 17.9 times what an official on the median salary earned, a level reached by 49 of the 4,381 officials paid for five years or more. The final annual entry is for 1896/97.

Places in order of time

Each number is a stop: the birthplace, the place of first work, then every place of the annual entries in turn. The year beside an arrow is the first entry at the new place.

All 9 stops
birthplaceplace of annual entriesmove, with the year of the first entry there
1877/781879/801881/821885/861889/90134567IstanbulSofiaBelgradePazar

Not on the map, as no position is recorded: stop 2 (Petersburg), stop 8 (Roma), stop 9 (Viyana).

  1. Istanbul (Dersaadet)

    Born 1851/52 (AH 1268); First work 1874/75 (AH 1291); 1874/75 (AH 1291)

    Tahrirat-ı Hariciye Kalemi mülazımı

    entries in 1 year

  2. Petersburg as worded, no place record not on the map

    1875 to 1879 (AH 1292 to 1296)

    Petersburg Sefareti ataşesi

    1,425 to 3,135 kuruş a month; entries in 5 years

  3. Istanbul (Dersaadet)

    1877 to 1879 (AH 1294 to 1296)

    Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibi; geçici Tahrirat-ı Hariciye Kalemi hizmeti 1877/78 (AH 1294); Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibi (İnfisal) 1878/79 (AH 1296)

    1,900 kuruş a month; entries in 2 years

  4. Sofia (Sofya)

    1879 to 1882 (AH 1297 to 1299)

    Bulgaristan Komisyonu başkâtibi

    4,000 to 5,000 kuruş a month; entries in 3 years

  5. Istanbul (Dersaadet)

    1881/82 (AH 1299)

    Bâbıâli hukuk müşavirleri refakati 1881/82 (AH 1299); Ticaret Nezareti İstatistik Kalemi müderrisi 1881/82 (AH 1299)

    1,080 to 2,000 kuruş a month; entries in 1 year

  6. Belgrade (Belgrad)

    1885 to 1890 (AH 1303 to 1307)

    No annual entry for 1882 to 1885 (AH 1300 to 1302) before it.

    Belgrad Sefareti başkâtibi 1885/86 (AH 1303); Belgrad sefiri 1889/90 (AH 1307)

    3,000 to 10,000 kuruş a month; entries in 2 years

    No annual entry for 1886 to 1889 (AH 1304 to 1306).

  7. Pazar (Atina)

    1889 to 1891 (AH 1307 to 1308)

    Atina sefiri

    10,000 kuruş a month; entries in 2 years

  8. Roma as worded, no place record not on the map

    1890/91 (AH 1308)

    Roma sefiri

    20,000 kuruş a month; entries in 1 year

  9. Viyana as worded, no place record not on the map

    1895 to 1897 (AH 1313 to 1314)

    No annual entry for 1891 to 1895 (AH 1309 to 1312) before it.

    Viyana sefiri

    18,450 to 20,500 kuruş a month; entries in 2 years

Career and salary

All years
Monthly salary by year, kuruşsalary of the yearentry of another institutionsalary not recordedyears with one job titleno annual entry
no entryno entryno entry05,00010,00015,00020,00025,0001875/76AH 12921877/78AH 12941878/79AH 12961880/81AH 12981882/83AH 13001884/85AH 13021886/87AH 13041888/89AH 13061890/91AH 13081892/93AH 13101894/95AH 13121896/97AH 131420,500 kuruşPetersburg Sefareti ataşesiAtina sefiriViyana sefiri
Salary against the medians of the same year
2005001,0002,0005,00010,00020,00050,0001875/76AH 12921877/78AH 12941878/79AH 12961880/81AH 12981882/83AH 13001884/85AH 13021886/87AH 13041888/89AH 13061890/91AH 13081892/93AH 13101894/95AH 13121896/97AH 1314This officialMedian, all officialsMedian, same province

Log scale: equal steps are equal ratios. The median of the same title is drawn for the years in which at least 5 officials with that title had a salary, and the median of the same province for the years in which at least 5 officials were paid in the province of the official's salary that year.

The numbers of the chart
Salary of Mahmud Nedim Bey against the medians of the same year, kuruş a month
YearSalaryMedian, all officialsMedian, same titleMedian, same provincePaid less
1875/761,42545085%
1876/771,90042089%
1877/781,90045090%
18781,90045089%
1878/793,13540094%
1879/805,0004002,00096%
1880/814,0004002,00096%
1881/824,00040096%
1885/863,00040095%
1889/9010,00040098%
1890/9120,00040099%
1895/9620,50040099%
1896/9720,50045099%

Paid less: the share of the other officials with a salary that year who earned less.

Point at a year for its salary, title, place and the median of all officials paid that year. Choose a row of the table to mark its years in the charts and its stop on the map.

Career of Mahmud Nedim Bey, one row per stage
YearsTitlePlaceSalary (kuruş a month)
1874/75AH 1291First workIstanbul (Dersaadet)
1874/75AH 1291Tahrirat-ı Hariciye Kalemi mülazımıIstanbul (Dersaadet)
1875 to 1879AH 1292 to 1296Petersburg Sefareti ataşesi
10 entries
YearSalary
1875/761,425
1876/771,425
1876/771,900
1877/781,900
1877/781,900
1877/781,900
1877/781,900
18781,900
1878/791,900
1878/793,135
1,425 to 3,135
1877/78AH 1294Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibi; geçici Tahrirat-ı Hariciye Kalemi hizmetiIstanbul (Dersaadet)1,900
1878/79AH 1296Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibi (İnfisal)Istanbul (Dersaadet)
1879 to 1882AH 1297 to 1299Bulgaristan Komisyonu başkâtibi
4 entries
YearSalary
1879/805,000
1879/804,000
1880/814,000
1881/824,000
Sofia (Sofya)5,000 to 4,000
1881/82AH 1299Bâbıâli hukuk müşavirleri refakati
4 entries
YearSalary
1881/822,000
1881/821,080
1881/82
1881/82
Istanbul (Dersaadet)2,000
1881/82AH 1299Ticaret Nezareti İstatistik Kalemi müderrisi
Ticaret
Istanbul (Dersaadet)2,000
No annual entry: 1882 to 1885 (AH 1300 to 1302)
1885/86AH 1303Belgrad Sefareti başkâtibiBelgrade (Belgrad)3,000
No annual entry: 1886 to 1889 (AH 1304 to 1306)
1889/90AH 1307Belgrad sefiriBelgrade (Belgrad)10,000
1889 to 1891AH 1307 to 1308Atina sefiri
2 entries
YearSalary
1889/9010,000
1890/9110,000
Pazar (Atina)10,000
1890/91AH 1308Roma sefiri20,000
No annual entry: 1891 to 1895 (AH 1309 to 1312)
1895 to 1897AH 1313 to 1314Viyana sefiri
3 entries
YearSalary
1895/9620,500
1896/9720,500
1896/9718,450
20,500 to 18,450

Record

Personal

Born
1851/52 (AH 1268)
Father's occupation
Erzurum vilayeti kapı kethüdası

First work

Year
1874/75 (AH 1291)

Recorded with

Officials who share a place, a job title, a school, a birthplace or the year of the first annual entry. Ranks compare the highest monthly salary of each official.

Same place, same years

Of the 283 officials with entries in Istanbul in the same years, 261 have a recorded salary; Mahmud Nedim Bey had the 21st highest salary of them.

All 1,057 officials with entries in Istanbul

Same birthplace

Of the 666 officials born in Istanbul, 446 have a recorded salary; Mahmud Nedim Bey had the 20th highest salary of them.

The page of Istanbul, with the 666 officials born there

First annual entry in the same year

Of the 152 officials whose first annual entry is for 1874/75 (AH 1291), 130 have a recorded salary; Mahmud Nedim Bey had the highest salary of them.

All 152 officials whose first annual entry is for 1874/75 (AH 1291)

Annual entries and original values

Annual entries of Mahmud Nedim Bey
YearTitlePlaceKuruş a monthInstitutionSourceArchive reference
1874/75AH 1291Tahrirat-ı Hariciye Kalemi mülazımıIstanbul (Dersaadet)Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1875/76AH 1292Petersburg Sefareti ataşesiPetersburg1,425Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1876/77AH 1293Petersburg Sefareti ataşesiPetersburg1,425Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1876/77AH 1293Berlin Sefareti ikinci kâtibiBerlin1,900Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1877/78AH 1294Berlin Sefareti ikinci kâtibiBerlin1,900Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1877/78AH 1294Viyana Sefareti ikinci kâtibiViyana1,900Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1877/78AH 1294Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibiPetersburg1,900Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1877/78AH 1294Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibi; geçici Tahrirat-ı Hariciye Kalemi hizmetiIstanbul (Dersaadet)1,900Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1877/78AH 1294Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibiPetersburg1,900Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1878AH 1295Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibiPetersburg1,900Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1878/79AH 1296Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibiPetersburg1,900Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1878/79AH 1296Petersburg Sefareti ikinci kâtibi (İnfisal)Istanbul (Dersaadet)Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1878/79AH 1296Bükreş Sefareti birinci kâtibiBükreş3,135Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1879/80AH 1297Bulgaristan Komisyonu başkâtibiSofia (Sofya)5,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1879/80AH 1297Bulgaristan Komisyonu başkâtibiSofia (Sofya)4,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1880/81AH 1298Bulgaristan Komisyonu başkâtibiSofia (Sofya)4,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1881/82AH 1299Bulgaristan Komisyonu başkâtibiSofia (Sofya)4,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1881/82AH 1299Bâbıâli hukuk müşavirleri refakatiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1881/82AH 1299Başvekâlet tercümanı ve mühürdarıIstanbul (Dersaadet)1,080Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1881/82AH 1299Başvekâlet tercümanı ve mühürdarı (Görevin sona ermesi)Istanbul (Dersaadet)Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1881/82AH 1299Başvekâlet tercümanı ve mühürdarı (İnfisal)Istanbul (Dersaadet)Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1881/82AH 1299Ticaret Nezareti İstatistik Kalemi müderrisiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,000TicaretSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1885/86AH 1303Belgrad Sefareti başkâtibiBelgrade (Belgrad)3,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1889/90AH 1307Belgrad sefiriBelgrade (Belgrad)10,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1889/90AH 1307Atina sefiriPazar (Atina)10,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1890/91AH 1308Atina sefiriPazar (Atina)10,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1890/91AH 1308Roma sefiriRoma20,000Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1895/96AH 1313Viyana sefiriViyana20,500Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1896/97AH 1314Viyana sefiriViyana20,500Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
1896/97AH 1314Viyana sefiriViyana18,450Affiliation not recordedSelected canonical career recordsBOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233; 65 BOA. DH.SAİD.d. 3/233
What the sources named in this table are
Selected canonical career records
Dated AH projections of the selected canonical collection; documentary and inferred bases remain available in each dossier.
Recorded values of Mahmud Nedim Bey with their sources
FieldRecorded valueSource
What the sources named in this table are
Selected canonical career records
Dated AH projections of the selected canonical collection; documentary and inferred bases remain available in each dossier.

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