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Official

Ali Saib Efendi

Muslim (Müslüman). Born in Istanbul (Dersaadet) in 1878 (AH 1295). On record 1895 to 1907, 10 annual entries.

Archive reference 0084_0141; 277

Life

Ali Saib Efendi was born in Istanbul in 1878 (AH 1295). The record gives the community as Muslim (Müslüman), the nationality as Turkish and the father's occupation as Asker.

Schooling recorded: Rüşdiye Mektebi, with 7 years of schooling recorded. The record marks no qualification (diploma, certificate, training or decoration). Languages recorded, with the skill words of the record: French, with Kitabet; Turkish, with Kitabet.

First work is recorded in Istanbul in 1892/93 (AH 1310). The official was then about 15 years old. The record gives 3 years of unpaid apprenticeship (mülazemet) before the first salary. The first-salary field gives 50 kuruş a month. At the first annual entry, in 1895/96, the official was about 17 years old.

The first annual entry, for 1895/96, shows Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye Memuriyeti in Beyoğlu, with 50 kuruş a month. In 1897/98 the record shows Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye Memuriyeti in Jeddah (Cidde), the salary going from 100 to 720 kuruş a month (before: Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye Memuriyeti in Beyoğlu). In 1899/1900 the record shows Muhabere Memuru in Trabzon, the salary going from 720 to 350 kuruş a month (before: Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye Memuriyeti in Jeddah). In 1901/02 the record shows Muhabere Memuru in Beyoğlu, the salary going from 350 to 150 kuruş a month (before: Muhabere Memuru in Trabzon). In 1904/05 the record shows Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye Memuriyeti in Nablus, the salary going from 394 to 900 kuruş a month (before: Muhabere Memuru in Beyoğlu). In 1906/07 the record shows Muhabere Memuru in Beyoğlu, the salary going from 900 to 280 kuruş a month (before: Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye Memuriyeti in Nablus). No annual entry is recorded for 1898/99 and 1905/06.

The highest salary, 900 kuruş a month, is first recorded in 1904/05 as Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye Memuriyeti. 84 per cent of the other officials with a recorded salary that year earned less. The median salary of all officials that year was 450 kuruş. Over 10 years with a salary the median is 350 kuruş a month, with 4 rises and 3 cuts. The largest rise, 620 kuruş, is seen in 1897/98. From the first salary to the last the salary grew by 16.95 per cent a year on average. The last salary is recorded in 1906/07, when 23 per cent of the other officials with a recorded salary that year earned less.

Record

Personal

Born
1878 (AH 1295)
Community
Muslim (Müslüman)
Nationality as recorded
Turkish
Father's occupation
Asker

Education

Rüşdiye
Rüşdiye Mektebi (7 years)rüşdiye school (middle school)
Unpaid years (mülazemet)
3 years
Preparation route (classification of the paper)
Low
Qualification (diploma, certificate, training or nişan)
No

The years count all schooling up to that school, as the record gives them.

Languages

French
Kitabetwriting
Turkish
Kitabetwriting

The glosses are cautious historical readings of the recorded words, not modern levels of proficiency.

First work

Year
1892/93 (AH 1310)
First salary field (kuruş a month)
50

Career

Career of Ali Saib Efendi, one row per stage
YearsTitlePlaceSalary (kuruş a month)
1892/93AH 1310First workIstanbul (Dersaadet)50first-salary field
1895 to 1897AH 1313 to 1314Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye Memuriyeti
2 entries
YearSalary
1895/9650
1896/97100
Beyoğlu50 to 100
1897/98AH 1315Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye MemuriyetiJeddah (Cidde)720
No annual entry: 1898/99 (AH 1316)
1899 to 1901AH 1317 to 1318Muhabere Memuru
2 entries
YearSalary
1899/1900350
1900/01350
Trabzon350
1901 to 1904AH 1319 to 1321Muhabere Memuru
3 entries
YearSalary
1901/02150
1902/03394
1903/04394
Beyoğlu150 to 394
1904/05AH 1322Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye MemuriyetiNablus900
No annual entry: 1905/06 (AH 1323)
1906/07AH 1324Muhabere MemuruBeyoğlu280
Monthly salary, kuruş
no entryno entry02004006008001,0001896/97AH 13141898/99AH 13161900/01AH 13181902/03AH 13201904/05AH 13221906/07AH 1324900 kuruş
Salary against the medians of the same year
501002005001,0001896/97AH 13141898/99AH 13161900/01AH 13181902/03AH 13201904/05AH 13221906/07AH 1324This officialMedian, all officialsMedian, same title

Log scale: equal steps are equal ratios. The median of the same title is drawn for the years in which at least 5 officials with that title had a salary.

The numbers of the chart
Salary of Ali Saib Efendi against the medians of the same year, kuruş a month
YearSalaryMedian, all officialsMedian, same titlePaid less
1895/96505005000%
1896/971005004952%
1897/9872050048081%
1899/190035050040026%
1900/0135050040025%
1901/021505004005%
1902/0339450038033%
1903/0439447535036%
1904/0590045045584%
1906/0728045030023%

Paid less: the share of the other officials with a salary that year who earned less.

Placesbornfirst workannual entries
IstanbulBeyoğluJeddahTrabzonNablus

Choose a row to mark its years in the charts and its place on the map.

Recorded with

Recorded in the same place in the same years

277 officials in all. Officials recorded in Beyoğlu

Same school recorded

3,199 officials in all. Officials with Rüşdiye Mektebi recorded

Same birthplace

1,998 officials in all. Officials born in Istanbul (Dersaadet)

Full record

Annual entries (10)

Annual entries of Ali Saib Efendi
YearTitlePlaceKuruş a monthInstitutionSourceArchive reference
1895/96AH 1313Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye MemuriyetiBeyoğlu50Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
1896/97AH 1314Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye MemuriyetiBeyoğlu100Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
1897/98AH 1315Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye MemuriyetiJeddah (Cidde)720Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
1899/1900AH 1317Muhabere MemuruTrabzon350Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
1900/01AH 1318Muhabere MemuruTrabzon350Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
1901/02AH 1319Muhabere MemuruBeyoğlu150Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
1902/03AH 1320Muhabere MemuruBeyoğlu394Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
1903/04AH 1321Muhabere MemuruBeyoğlu394Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
1904/05AH 1322Muhaberat-ı Ecnebiye MemuriyetiNablus900Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
1906/07AH 1324Muhabere MemuruBeyoğlu280Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0084_0141; 277
What the sources named in this table are
Recovered annual personnel extract
The merged annual personnel file recovered for the replication of the first paper. Annual entries are taken from it for every official it holds.

Sources and original values (14)

Recorded values of Ali Saib Efendi with their sources
FieldRecorded valueSource
Identity
NameAli Saib EfendiPersonnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
Birth year (AH)1295Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
BirthplacedersaadetRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
Province of birthdersaadetRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
Father's occupationAskerRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
ReligionMuslumanRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
Nationality or communityTurkishRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
Schooling
SchoolRusdiye MektebiRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
Years of schooling7Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
Years of apprenticeship (mülazemet)3Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
First work
First work: year (AH)1310Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
First work: Gregorian year as stored1892Recovered annual personnel extract
First work: placeistanbulRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
First salary field (kuruş a month)50Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
What the sources named in this table are
Earlier annual personnel extract
The detailed annual personnel file of October 2024. An official found only in this file keeps the years, titles and salaries it gives.
Recovered annual personnel extract
The merged annual personnel file recovered for the replication of the first paper. Annual entries are taken from it for every official it holds.
Personnel attributes extract
The detailed personnel file of September 2025, read for personal details such as birth, schooling and first work.
  • Origin of the record: Post and Telegraph personnel records.
  • 9 annual entries of 10 belong to the saved estimation sample of the paper.

How to read this record: calendar years, years without an annual entry, salaries and sources.