Official
Ali Saib Efendi
Muslim (Müslüman). Born in Bergama in 1883/84 (AH 1301). On record 1907/08, 1 annual entry.
Archive reference 148-177-349
Life#
Born in Bergama in 1883/84 (AH 1301) into the Muslim (Müslüman) community, Ali Saib Efendi was the child of an army captain (yüzbaşı). Work began in Bergama in 1900/01, at about 16, with seven unpaid years as a mülazım (apprentice) before a first salary of 250 kuruş. The one annual entry, for 1907/08, places Ali Saib in Doğubayazıt (Bayezid) as a communications official (Muhabere Memuru), on 250 kuruş a month.
Places in order of time#
Each number is a stop: the birthplace, the place of first work, then every place of the annual entries in turn. The year beside an arrow is the first entry at the new place.
Born 1883/84 (AH 1301); First work 1900/01 (AH 1318)
One annual entry, for 1907/08 (AH 1325): Muhabere Memuru in Doğubayazıt (Bayezid), with 250 kuruş a month. Institution: Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf).
Record#
Personal
- Born
- 1883/84 (AH 1301)
- Birthplace
- Bergama
- Community
- Muslim (Müslüman)
- Nationality as recorded
- Turkish
- Father's occupation
- Yuzbasi
Education
- Rüşdiye
- Rüşdiye Mektebi (7 years)rüşdiye school (middle school)
- Unpaid years (mülazemet)
- 7 years
- Preparation route (classification of the paper)
- Middle
- Qualification (diploma, certificate, training or nişan)
- Yes
The years count all schooling up to that school, as the record gives them.
Languages
- Turkish
- Kitabetwriting
The glosses are cautious historical readings of the recorded words, not modern levels of proficiency.
First work
- Year
- 1900/01 (AH 1318)
- Place
- Bergama
- First salary field (kuruş a month)
- 250
Recorded with#
Officials who share a place, a job title, a school, a birthplace or the year of the first annual entry. Ranks compare the highest monthly salary of each official.
Same post (job title and place), same years
Of the 3 officials who held Muhabere Memuru in Doğubayazıt (Bayezid) in the same years, Ali Saib Efendi had the lowest salary.
- Mehmet Ali Efendi1 shared year; highest salary 400 kuruş
- İsmail Efendi1 shared year; highest salary 300 kuruş
Same place, same years
Of the 3 officials with entries in Doğubayazıt (Bayezid) in the same years, Ali Saib Efendi had the lowest salary.
- Mehmet Ali Efendi1 shared year; highest salary 400 kuruş
- İsmail Efendi1 shared year; highest salary 300 kuruş
Same job title, same years
Of the 313 officials with the title Muhabere Memuru in the same years, Ali Saib Efendi had the 167th highest salary.
- Mustafa Fazıl Bey1 shared year; highest salary 1,700 kuruş
- Mahmut Nedim Efendi1 shared year; highest salary 1,200 kuruş
- Abdülvahid Efendi1 shared year; highest salary 1,000 kuruş
- Ahmet Muhtar Efendi1 shared year; highest salary 1,000 kuruş
- Jozef Fori Efendi1 shared year; highest salary 1,000 kuruş
Same school
Of the 3,206 officials with Rüşdiye Mektebi among their schools, 3,200 have a recorded salary; Ali Saib Efendi had the 2,552nd highest salary of them.
- Abdülhafız Efendiborn 1883/84 (AH 1301); highest salary 300 kuruş
- Abdullah Şevki Efendiborn 1883/84 (AH 1301); highest salary 400 kuruş
- Abdullah Sıdkı Efendiborn 1883/84 (AH 1301); highest salary 900 kuruş
- Ahmet İhsan Efendiborn 1883/84 (AH 1301); highest salary 200 kuruş
- Ahmet İhsan Efendiborn 1883/84 (AH 1301); highest salary 100 kuruş
Same birthplace
Of the 7 officials born in Bergama, Ali Saib Efendi had the 6th highest salary.
- Mehmet Rüşdi Efendiborn 1881/82 (AH 1299); highest salary 250 kuruş
- Mustafa Hulusi Efendiborn 1873/74 (AH 1290); highest salary 400 kuruş
- Mehmet Necip Beyborn 1872/73 (AH 1289); highest salary 400 kuruş
- Artin Noris Efendiborn 1866/67 (AH 1283); highest salary 500 kuruş
- Halil Kemal Efendiborn 1858/59 (AH 1275); highest salary 540 kuruş
First annual entry in the same year
Of the 157 officials whose first annual entry is for 1907/08 (AH 1325), Ali Saib Efendi had the 46th highest salary.
- Abdülkadir Efendifirst entry in Istanbul; highest salary 100 kuruş
- Ali Rıza Efendifirst entry in Haydarpaşa; highest salary 100 kuruş
- Bedros Dermenas Efendifirst entry in Beirut (Beyrut); highest salary 250 kuruş
- Halid Efendifirst entry in Baghdad (Bağdat); highest salary 210 kuruş
- Mehmet Cemaleddin Efendifirst entry in Galata; highest salary 300 kuruş
Full record
Annual entries (1)
| Year | Title | Place | Kuruş a month | Institution | Source | Archive reference |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1907/08AH 1325 | Muhabere Memuru | Doğubayazıt (Bayezid) | 250 | Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf) | Recovered annual personnel extract | 148-177-349 |
What the sources named in this table are
- Recovered annual personnel extract
- The merged annual personnel file recovered for the replication of the first paper. Annual entries are taken from it for every official it holds.
Sources and original values (14)
| Field | Recorded value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Identity | ||
| Name | Ali Saib Efendi | Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| Birth year (AH) | 1301 | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| Birthplace | bergama | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| Province of birth | aydin | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| Father's occupation | yuzbasi | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| Religion | Musluman | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| Nationality or community | Turkish | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| Schooling | ||
| School | Rusdiye Mektebi | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| Years of schooling | 7 | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| Years of apprenticeship (mülazemet) | 7 | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| First work | ||
| First work: year (AH) | 1318 | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| First work: Gregorian year as stored | 1900 | Recovered annual personnel extract |
| First work: place | Bergama | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
| First salary field (kuruş a month) | 250 | Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract |
What the sources named in this table are
- Earlier annual personnel extract
- The detailed annual personnel file of October 2024. An official found only in this file keeps the years, titles and salaries it gives.
- Recovered annual personnel extract
- The merged annual personnel file recovered for the replication of the first paper. Annual entries are taken from it for every official it holds.
- Personnel attributes extract
- The detailed personnel file of September 2025, read for personal details such as birth, schooling and first work.
- Origin of the record: Post and Telegraph personnel records.
How to read this record: calendar years, years without an annual entry, salaries and sources.
Subjects
- Ali Saib Efendi
- Communications official (Muhabere Memuru)
- Doğubayazıt (Bayezid)
- Bergama
- Rüşdiye school (Rüşdiye Mektebi)
- Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)
- Muslim (Müslüman)
- Biography of an Ottoman official (Osmanlı memurunun biyografisi)
- Career and pay (memuriyet ve maaş)
- Ottoman history (Osmanlı tarihi)
- Ottoman bureaucracy (Osmanlı bürokrasisi)
- Ottoman officials (Osmanlı'da memurlar)
- Ottoman personnel registers (Sicill-i Ahvâl defterleri)
- Ottoman registers (Osmanlı defterleri)