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Mehmet Said Bey

Muslim (Müslüman). Born in Istanbul (Dersaadet) in 1868/69 (AH 1285). On record 1885 to 1910, 19 annual entries.

Archive reference 0093_0210; 457

Life

Born in Istanbul in 1868/69 (AH 1285), Mehmet Said Bey came from the Muslim (Müslüman) community; the father's occupation was "sube Muduru". Mehmet Said began work in Istanbul in 1885/86, at about 17, paid from the start, on 320 kuruş a month. The first annual entry, for 1885/86, places Mehmet Said in Istanbul, the birthplace, in the accounts office (Muhasebe Kalemi), where the entries run to 1895/96, with a rise to a post in the Muhendis Kalemi in 1892/93. Mehmet Said then moved to Paris from 1896 to 1899. The last posts were in Istanbul again from 1901 to 1910, first in the Sefaret 3. Kitabeti, from 1907/08 as Ticaret Nezareti Fenniyesi. The farthest post, Paris, lay about 2,250 km from Istanbul, and fewer than 5 per cent of the 5,162 officials with a known birthplace and place of service served as far from the birthplace.

The salary went from 320 kuruş a month in 1885/86 to 2,500 in 1909/10, the peak, as Ticaret Nezareti Fenniyesi in Istanbul, when nine in ten paid officials earned less. In all, 18 years of salary come to 323,520 kuruş, 3.2 times what an official on the median salary earned in those years, a level reached by fewer than 4 per cent of the 3,805 officials paid for five years or more. The final annual entry is for 1909/10. Mehmet Said received the Mecidi order and a medal.

Places in order of time

Each number is a stop: the birthplace, the place of first work, then every place of the annual entries in turn. The year beside an arrow is the first entry at the new place.

All 3 stops
birthplaceplace of annual entriesmove, with the year of the first entry there
Further places, smaller scale1896/971901/02123Istanbul
  1. Istanbul (Dersaadet)

    Born 1868/69 (AH 1285); First work 1885/86 (AH 1303); 1885 to 1896 (AH 1303 to 1313)

    First work as Seraskeriye

    Muhasebe Kalemi 1885 to 1889 (AH 1303 to 1306); Muhendis Kalemi 1892 to 1896 (AH 1310 to 1313)

    320 to 750 kuruş a month; entries in 8 years

    No annual entry for 1889 to 1892 (AH 1307 to 1309).

  2. Paris

    1896 to 1899 (AH 1314 to 1316)

    Ateselik

    920 kuruş a month; entries in 2 years

    No annual entry for 1897/98 (AH 1315).

  3. Istanbul (Dersaadet)

    1901 to 1910 (AH 1319 to 1327)

    No annual entry for 1899 to 1901 (AH 1317 to 1318) before it.

    Sefaret 3. Kitabeti 1901 to 1907 (AH 1319 to 1324); Ticaret Nezareti Fenniyesi 1907 to 1910 (AH 1325 to 1327)

    2,250 to 2,500 kuruş a month; entries in 9 years

Career and salary

All years
Monthly salary by year, kuruşsalary of the yearentry of another institutionsalary not recordedyears with one job titleno annual entry
no entryno entryno entry01,0002,0003,0001886/87AH 13041888/89AH 13061890/91AH 13081892/93AH 13101894/95AH 13121896/97AH 13141898/99AH 13161900/01AH 13181902/03AH 13201904/05AH 13221906/07AH 13241908/09AH 13262,500 kuruşMuhasebe KalemiMuhendis KalemiSefaret 3. Kitabeti
Salary against the medians of the same year
2005001,0002,0005,0001886/87AH 13041888/89AH 13061890/91AH 13081892/93AH 13101894/95AH 13121896/97AH 13141898/99AH 13161900/01AH 13181902/03AH 13201904/05AH 13221906/07AH 13241908/09AH 1326This officialMedian, all officialsMedian, same titleMedian, same province

Log scale: equal steps are equal ratios. The median of the same title is drawn for the years in which at least 5 officials with that title had a salary, and the median of the same province for the years in which at least 5 officials were paid in the province of the official's salary that year.

The numbers of the chart
Salary of Mehmet Said Bey against the medians of the same year, kuruş a month
YearSalaryMedian, all officialsMedian, same titleMedian, same provincePaid less
1885/8632050038050017%
1886/8764050040050071%
1887/8864050040050070%
1888/8964050031050070%
1892/9375050040050076%
1893/9475050040048076%
1894/9575050050045076%
1895/9675050042544076%
1898/9992050089%
1901/022,30050044097%
1902/032,30050045097%
1903/042,30047545097%
1904/052,30045045097%
1905/062,30047542597%
1906/072,30045047096%
1907/082,25030030094%
1908/092,25035040092%
1909/102,500462.550089%

Paid less: the share of the other officials with a salary that year who earned less.

Point at a year for its salary, title, place and the median of all officials paid that year. Choose a row of the table to mark its years in the charts and its stop on the map.

Career of Mehmet Said Bey, one row per stage
YearsTitlePlaceSalary (kuruş a month)
1885/86AH 1303Seraskeriyefirst workIstanbul (Dersaadet)320first-salary field
1885/86AH 1303Muhasebe KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)320
1886 to 1888AH 1304 to 1305Muhasebe Kalemi
Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)
2 entries
YearSalary
1886/87640
1887/88640
Istanbul (Dersaadet)640
1888/89AH 1306Muhasebe KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)640
No annual entry: 1889 to 1892 (AH 1307 to 1309)
1892 to 1896AH 1310 to 1313Muhendis Kalemi
Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)
4 entries
YearSalary
1892/93750
1893/94750
1894/95750
1895/96750
Istanbul (Dersaadet)750
1896/97AH 1314Paris
No annual entry: 1897/98 (AH 1315)
1898/99AH 1316AteselikParis920
No annual entry: 1899 to 1901 (AH 1317 to 1318)
1901 to 1907AH 1319 to 1324Sefaret 3. Kitabeti
6 entries
YearSalary
1901/022,300
1902/032,300
1903/042,300
1904/052,300
1905/062,300
1906/072,300
Istanbul (Dersaadet)2,300
1907 to 1910AH 1325 to 1327Ticaret Nezareti Fenniyesi
3 entries
YearSalary
1907/082,250
1908/092,250
1909/102,500
Istanbul (Dersaadet)2,250 to 2,500

Record

Personal

Born
1868/69 (AH 1285)
Community
Muslim (Müslüman)
Nationality as recorded
Turkish
Father's occupation
sube Muduru

Education

Darüşşafaka
Darüşşafaka (14 years)Darüşşafaka (school for orphans in Istanbul)
Higher or professional
Telgraf Mektebitelegraph school; recorded as a code
Unpaid years (mülazemet)
0 years
Preparation route (classification of the paper)
Darüşşafaka
Qualification (diploma, certificate, training or nişan)
Yes

The years count all schooling up to that school, as the record gives them.

Languages

French
Kitabetwriting
Turkish
Kitabetwriting

The glosses are cautious historical readings of the recorded words, not modern levels of proficiency.

First work

Year
1885/86 (AH 1303)
First job as worded
Seraskeriye
Age at first work (workbook field)
18
First salary field (kuruş a month)
320
First-job salary of the original workbook (kuruş a month)
320

Honours and ranks

Mecidi order (recorded code)
4
Medal (recorded code)
1

Legal records

Judicial record (recorded code)
1; 2
Judicial record as worded
Memuriyeti'ne nakledilip posta gunleri vapurda tatar oldugu ilan olundugu hâlde emanet ita edenlere tatar olmadigindan bahisle iki kat ucret aldigi ve mekatibin zarflari acik olarak getirilmek ve taahhutlu mekatibin uc mahallinin de muhurlenmek uzere ashabinin ya bizzat postahaneye gelmeleri veyahut muhr-i zatilerini gondermeleri mecburiyetinde tutulduklari ve posta muamelatini bizzat icra etmek vazifesi iktizasindan iken ahara tevdi eylemekte oldugunu ve postahanenin sehriyesi olan altmis bes kurusun yerine kirk kurus ita ile altmis bes kurusa senet alip kalan yirmi bes kurusu yed-i ihtilasina gecirdigi ve muduriyet odasina mahsus mefrusat ile kendi hanesi odasini tefris eyledigi ve emanet defterlerinin silinmis ve dâʼi-i suphe bir halde bulundugu ve devair-i resmiye taraflarindan gonderilen emanatin bilâ-ucret kabul edildigi iddia ve ihbar olunmasi uzerine bin uc yuz uc senesi Cemaziyelahirinin onunda 4 Mart sene 1302 isten el cektirilerek taht-i muhakemeye alinmis; bin yedi yuz elli yedi kurus zimmeti zuhur etmesinden dolayi
Legal record note as worded
Memuriyeti'ne nakledilip posta gunleri vapurda tatar oldugu ilan olundugu hâlde emanet ita edenlere tatar olmadigindan bahisle iki kat ucret aldigi ve mekatibin zarflari acik olarak getirilmek ve taahhutlu mekatibin uc mahallinin de muhurlenmek uzere ashabinin ya bizzat postahaneye gelmeleri veyahut muhr-i zatilerini gondermeleri mecburiyetinde tutulduklari ve posta muamelatini bizzat icra etmek vazifesi iktizasindan iken ahara tevdi eylemekte oldugunu ve postahanenin sehriyesi olan altmis bes kurusun yerine kirk kurus ita ile altmis bes kurusa senet alip kalan yirmi bes kurusu yed-i ihtilasina gecirdigi ve muduriyet odasina mahsus mefrusat ile kendi hanesi odasini tefris eyledigi ve emanet defterlerinin silinmis ve dâʼi-i suphe bir halde bulundugu ve devair-i resmiye taraflarindan gonderilen emanatin bilâ-ucret kabul edildigi iddia ve ihbar olunmasi uzerine bin uc yuz uc senesi Cemaziyelahirinin onunda 4 Mart sene 1302 isten el cektirilerek taht-i muhakemeye alinmis; bin yedi yuz elli yedi kurus zimmeti zuhur etmesinden dolayi
Years (AH) with a criminal-record mark in the annual records
1305

Notes from the record

Merit and competence grade (recorded code)
1

Recorded with

Officials who share a place, a job title, a school, a birthplace or the year of the first annual entry. Ranks compare the highest monthly salary of each official.

Same post (job title and place), same years

Of the 38 officials who held Muhasebe Kalemi in Istanbul in the same years, Mehmet Said Bey had the 3rd highest salary.

Same place, same years

Of the 1,400 officials with entries in Istanbul in the same years, Mehmet Said Bey had the 87th highest salary.

All 1,750 officials with entries in Istanbul

Same job title, same years

Of the 47 officials with the title Muhasebe Kalemi in the same years, Mehmet Said Bey had the 3rd highest salary.

All 258 officials with the title Muhasebe Kalemi

Same school

Of the 203 officials with Darüşşafaka among their schools, Mehmet Said Bey had the 13th highest salary.

All 203 officials with Darüşşafaka

Same birthplace

Of the 1,999 officials born in Istanbul, 1,997 have a recorded salary; Mehmet Said Bey had the 104th highest salary of them.

The page of Istanbul, with the 1,999 officials born there

First annual entry in the same year

Of the 93 officials whose first annual entry is for 1885/86 (AH 1303), Mehmet Said Bey had the highest salary.

All 93 officials whose first annual entry is for 1885/86 (AH 1303)

Full record

Annual entries (19)

Annual entries of Mehmet Said Bey
YearTitlePlaceKuruş a monthInstitutionSourceArchive reference
1885/86AH 1303Muhasebe KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)320OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1886/87AH 1304Muhasebe KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)640Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0093_0210; 457
1887/88AH 1305Muhasebe KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)640Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0093_0210; 457
1888/89AH 1306Muhasebe KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)640OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1892/93AH 1310Muhendis KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)750Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0093_0210; 457
1893/94AH 1311Muhendis KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)750Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0093_0210; 457
1894/95AH 1312Muhendis KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)750Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0093_0210; 457
1895/96AH 1313Muhendis KalemiIstanbul (Dersaadet)750Post and Telegraph (Posta ve Telgraf)Recovered annual personnel extract0093_0210; 457
1896/97AH 1314ParisOtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1898/99AH 1316AteselikParis920OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1901/02AH 1319Sefaret 3. KitabetiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,300OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1902/03AH 1320Sefaret 3. KitabetiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,300OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1903/04AH 1321Sefaret 3. KitabetiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,300OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1904/05AH 1322Sefaret 3. KitabetiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,300OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1905/06AH 1323Sefaret 3. KitabetiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,300OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1906/07AH 1324Sefaret 3. KitabetiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,300OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1907/08AH 1325Ticaret Nezareti FenniyesiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,250OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1908/09AH 1326Ticaret Nezareti FenniyesiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,250OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
1909/10AH 1327Ticaret Nezareti FenniyesiIstanbul (Dersaadet)2,500OtherCross-ministry personnel workbook0093_0210; 457
What the sources named in this table are
Cross-ministry personnel workbook
A personnel workbook with the annual entries in institutions other than the Post and Telegraph (justice, land registry, customs, police and others), with the same annual fields as the personnel workbook.
Recovered annual personnel extract
The merged annual personnel file recovered for the replication of the first paper. Annual entries are taken from it for every official it holds.

Sources and original values (36)

Recorded values of Mehmet Said Bey with their sources
FieldRecorded valueSource
Identity
NameMehmet Said BeyPersonnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Linked personnel workbook
Birth year (AH)1285Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Birthplacedersaadet used on this pageRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
Birthplaceistanbul other valueCross-ministry personnel workbook
Birthplace: district (kaza)istanbulCross-ministry personnel workbook
Birthplace: sancakistanbulCross-ministry personnel workbook
Birthplace: province (vilayet)istanbulCross-ministry personnel workbook
Province of birthdersaadetRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
Father's occupationsube muduruRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
ReligionMuslumanRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Nationality or communityTurkishRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Schooling
SchoolDarussafakaRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Years of schooling14 used on this pageRecovered annual personnel extract
Years of schooling12 other valueRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Telegraph school (recorded code)1Recovered annual personnel extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Years of apprenticeship (mülazemet)0Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
First work
First work: year (AH)1303Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Linked personnel workbook
First work: Gregorian year as stored1886Recovered annual personnel extract
First work: placeistanbulRecovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
First work: district (kaza)istanbulCross-ministry personnel workbook
First work: sancakistanbulCross-ministry personnel workbook
First work: province (vilayet)istanbulCross-ministry personnel workbook
First job as wordedSeraskeriyeLinked personnel workbook; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Age at first work (workbook field)18Cross-ministry personnel workbook
First salary field (kuruş a month)320Recovered annual personnel extract; Personnel attributes extract; Earlier annual personnel extract
First-job salary of the original workbook (kuruş a month)320Linked personnel workbook; Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Honours
Mecidi order (recorded code)4Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Medal (recorded code)1Cross-ministry personnel workbook
Legal records
Judicial record (recorded code)1 used on this pageCross-ministry personnel workbook
Judicial record (recorded code)2 other valueCross-ministry personnel workbook
Judicial record as wordedMemuriyeti'ne nakledilip posta gunleri vapurda tatar oldugu ilan olundugu hâlde emanet ita edenlere tatar olmadigindan bahisle iki kat ucret aldigi ve mekatibin zarflari acik olarak getirilmek ve taahhutlu mekatibin uc mahallinin de muhurlenmek uzere ashabinin ya bizzat postahaneye gelmeleri veyahut muhr-i zatilerini gondermeleri mecburiyetinde tutulduklari ve posta muamelatini bizzat icra etmek vazifesi iktizasindan iken ahara tevdi eylemekte oldugunu ve postahanenin sehriyesi olan altmis bes kurusun yerine kirk kurus ita ile altmis bes kurusa senet alip kalan yirmi bes kurusu yed-i ihtilasina gecirdigi ve muduriyet odasina mahsus mefrusat ile kendi hanesi odasini tefris eyledigi ve emanet defterlerinin silinmis ve dâʼi-i suphe bir halde bulundugu ve devair-i resmiye taraflarindan gonderilen emanatin bilâ-ucret kabul edildigi iddia ve ihbar olunmasi uzerine bin uc yuz uc senesi Cemaziyelahirinin onunda 4 Mart sene 1302 isten el cektirilerek taht-i muhakemeye alinmis used on this pageCross-ministry personnel workbook
Judicial record as wordedbin yedi yuz elli yedi kurus zimmeti zuhur etmesinden dolayi other valueCross-ministry personnel workbook
Legal record note as wordedMemuriyeti'ne nakledilip posta gunleri vapurda tatar oldugu ilan olundugu hâlde emanet ita edenlere tatar olmadigindan bahisle iki kat ucret aldigi ve mekatibin zarflari acik olarak getirilmek ve taahhutlu mekatibin uc mahallinin de muhurlenmek uzere ashabinin ya bizzat postahaneye gelmeleri veyahut muhr-i zatilerini gondermeleri mecburiyetinde tutulduklari ve posta muamelatini bizzat icra etmek vazifesi iktizasindan iken ahara tevdi eylemekte oldugunu ve postahanenin sehriyesi olan altmis bes kurusun yerine kirk kurus ita ile altmis bes kurusa senet alip kalan yirmi bes kurusu yed-i ihtilasina gecirdigi ve muduriyet odasina mahsus mefrusat ile kendi hanesi odasini tefris eyledigi ve emanet defterlerinin silinmis ve dâʼi-i suphe bir halde bulundugu ve devair-i resmiye taraflarindan gonderilen emanatin bilâ-ucret kabul edildigi iddia ve ihbar olunmasi uzerine bin uc yuz uc senesi Cemaziyelahirinin onunda 4 Mart sene 1302 isten el cektirilerek taht-i muhakemeye alinmis used on this pageLinked personnel workbook (legal-record columns)
Legal record note as wordedbin yedi yuz elli yedi kurus zimmeti zuhur etmesinden dolayi other valueLinked personnel workbook (legal-record columns)
Years (AH) with a criminal-record mark in the annual records1305Later annual personnel extract
Other recorded values
Merit and competence grade (recorded code)1Cross-ministry personnel workbook
What the sources named in this table are
Cross-ministry personnel workbook
A personnel workbook with the annual entries in institutions other than the Post and Telegraph (justice, land registry, customs, police and others), with the same annual fields as the personnel workbook.
Later annual personnel extract
The detailed annual personnel file of October 2025. It marks single annual entries with a criminal-record flag and holds status words such as Vefat. For a death, the year is the year of the annual list in which the status word stands.
Earlier annual personnel extract
The detailed annual personnel file of October 2024. An official found only in this file keeps the years, titles and salaries it gives.
Recovered annual personnel extract
The merged annual personnel file recovered for the replication of the first paper. Annual entries are taken from it for every official it holds.
Personnel attributes extract
The detailed personnel file of September 2025, read for personal details such as birth, schooling and first work.
Linked personnel workbook
The original personnel workbook, from which selected fields on background and first work are taken.
Linked personnel workbook (legal-record columns)
The same original personnel workbook, read for its columns on legal records. The wording is a note of the workbook and not the finding of a court.
  • The sources give more than one value for a marked field. Every value is listed.
  • Origin of the record: Post and Telegraph personnel records.
  • 6 annual entries of 19 belong to the saved estimation sample of the paper.

How to read this record: calendar years, years without an annual entry, salaries and sources.

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